In about three weeks, the 3rd Annual All-Centercourt team will be announced, honoring the top 60 seasons turned in by high school players this year. The selections are broken down into a first, second, third, fourth, & fifth team, with five players on each, along with 35 honorable mention selections. There are also both Player & Coach of the Year selections.
The top 60 may sound like a lot, but when you start putting names down on paper, the list fills quickly and inevitably some very good players get left off the list. The main criteria I focus on is the 2012-2013 season, not what you did in the past, and not where you're going in the future...it's all about honoring the top 60 from this season.
Use the comments section below to tell us what your teams would look like and maybe even why. If you're really ambitious, try coming up with the entire team including the HM selections.
Please keep all commentary appropriate when discussing high school athletes, and remember, it is lame to say someone does not belong on a team, without offering up who should be on one.
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Johnathon Lewis buffalo east high ... Avg 19 points a game over 85 steals second place in Yale ( behind Mckinly ) Class b2 championship , b2 player of game aquanist all tourney team and also olean all tourney team !
Posted by: Neil Lewis | Friday, March 08, 2013 at 11:04 AM
1st Team Weir Campion Taplin Williams Bathurst
2nd Team Crumpton Belton Carson Wilkinson Eckstrum
3rd Team White Mitchell Anderson Rath Morris
Posted by: Hoops Fan1 | Friday, March 08, 2013 at 11:12 AM
Not taking anything away from anyone but the kid Mitchell is a great talent but was out played bye johnathon Lewis both games this year .. And split the series with Anderson John won at Ecc in overtime he scored six of his teams 11 points but keir got revenge at east the last game of the Yale cup .. I'm just saying the over look what John did he did take his team too too the class b champ vs olean !
Posted by: Neil Lewis | Friday, March 08, 2013 at 11:42 AM
1st team: Weir, Eckstrum, Bathhurst, Taplin and Williams. Campion and Crumpton r OV/RATED. And I would take L. Smith and his overall game over Morris from McKinley any day of the week.
Posted by: Shadowtoad | Friday, March 08, 2013 at 02:59 PM
Tanner Schmit from Clarence. Just a sophmore and he was one of the better players in the league
Posted by: Clarence | Friday, March 08, 2013 at 03:57 PM
Schmit also averaged 10 points and 15 boards
Posted by: Clarence | Friday, March 08, 2013 at 04:02 PM
zak ciezki a sophomore from cheektowaga averaged 17 points a game had 75 assits 124 rebounds 35 steals and 29 block shots for the year and also had 7 3 pointers 10 rebound and 37 points in playoff lost to iroquois
Posted by: don ciezki | Friday, March 08, 2013 at 09:45 PM
Shadowfrog. Bathurst and eckstrom are juniors. Good players, but Crumpton would eat them alive on the court. By the way, Tom Parotta and Jim Baron both think Crumpton's a D1 talent. You lose this argument. Bathurst is first team. Not Eckstrom. First team: Weir, Crumpton, Campion, Taplin, Bathurst
Posted by: no look pass | Friday, March 08, 2013 at 09:58 PM
campion not first team, would be going D 1 if he was .... plays on good team but not first team all wny....
Posted by: Hoopster | Friday, March 08, 2013 at 10:07 PM
Crupmpton would not eat either one of those guys alive.....unless he was a cannibal. BTW did you hear about the cannibal that passed his brother in the woods? and I know Taplins a good baller but I was only able to go to the games at Buff St. and I didn't see him there. And for anyone there @ Buff St. Tuesday night, was there 5 players there as good or better than Taplin..and we cant forget JT and Canisius were not there. he's a great player but I don't think he gets the entitlement bid this year. I find it hard to believe that with all the talent still playing there not five that qualify for 1st team. BUT, I know you have to think about the whole year and I cant vouch for many of those games. But I do know the cream rises to the top in the end. And another fact is I don't hold a lot of the other answers to the criteria being used due to my lack of seeing these guys more on the floor. But there is no doubt there are plenty to choose from, good luck!
Posted by: GAME | Saturday, March 09, 2013 at 02:35 AM
First Team-Weir,Williams,Taplin,Bathurst,Crumpton
Second Team-Eckstrum,Campion,White,Anderson,Wilkinson
Third Team-Carson,Belton,Lewis,Mitchell,Morris
Fourth Team-Rath,Mccdonald,Smith,Oliveri,Schmidtt
Posted by: Joe716 | Saturday, March 09, 2013 at 06:53 AM
Its shadowtoad not shadowfrog! LOL My problem with Crumpton is that he sits outside alot of the time when he should have been kicking butt under the boards and dominating. As to him thriving as a D-1 player, don't hold your breath. I hope it happens but his game doesn't translate in my opinion.
Posted by: Shadowtoad | Saturday, March 09, 2013 at 09:30 AM
I used to say Crumpton's game won't translate to college but he has proven me wrong. He can do everything fairly well...should be a very tough matchup on the perimeter in time with his size. Currently, he doesn't yet have the speed to get to the rim consistently at that level but he does have enough to get open at times for midrange shots. I could definitely see Crumpton developing into a starter for the latter portion of his college career.
Posted by: TML1000 | Saturday, March 09, 2013 at 09:57 AM
Love the dad promoting his own son
Posted by: WT716 | Saturday, March 09, 2013 at 09:59 AM
I give him credit for using his own name. I suspect many dads promote their boys around here but look to throw the dogs off the trail. I think Ciezki made the cut either way, hat kid is a player.
Posted by: Gus Buster | Saturday, March 09, 2013 at 10:06 AM
Game?? Cannibalism? Finally this blog has devolved into something closer to my level. HA! I dont think its fair to hold Crumpton to a lowere standard because his coach wont use him the way he should be used. I agree with TML, I really think he will thrive at Canisius and maybe start or at least be a big contributor his final 2 years. I can remember 4 years ago a bunch of prople, including his local hs writer who didn't think Javon Mcrea would do anything at UB. UM, i think they have all been proven wrong. And for all the nitpickers out there hold up. I am not comparing Mcrea to Crumpton. Jermaine wont be THAT good. But if he sticks with Coach Baron and works hard, he could have a nice career for the Griffs
Posted by: Tarheel23 | Saturday, March 09, 2013 at 10:10 AM
I still find it fairly crazy that so many people didn't think Javon would amount to all that much. I remember the first time I saw him play against South in the regionals...he was just dominant(sure against a team without an inside presence). He was certainly raw, but you could see flashes of being great. He has also improved portions of his game each season...soemthing every good college player needs to do to be very successful.
Posted by: TML1000 | Saturday, March 09, 2013 at 10:32 AM
I agree with joe 716
Posted by: Neil | Saturday, March 09, 2013 at 12:16 PM
Tarheel~thought you would catch the joke in there!!In my limited time seeing Crumpton they easily took away a lot of his skill by placing him on the perimeter a lot in zone Dz and I think he should have been down low attracting a crowd to free up more uncontested shots closer in and for 3z.and its also true that a lot of these guys will grow and become even better when surrounded by better players all around him on a very consistent basis. And he does have some skills all over the floor that can be polished and utilized more at the next level and I wish him well as I wish ALL these kids well. Didn't that kid from N-W think his name was Mulkey or something...he seemed to get better once he was at UB....im a bit foggy on his years but only 1-2 years ago. And thank you all for input as I have not been a full time fan of more than just my kids and their leagues so a lot is what I "recall" and hope I will be able to see more games with my boy graduating this year. As mosy you Dads know you are on your kids games and everything when their playing but when they are not it will give me more "EyeTime" in person at these big time ballers. My best as I said to all kids.
Posted by: GAME | Saturday, March 09, 2013 at 12:47 PM
Marcus morris does it all for Mckinley the game against Amherst he dominated.He does it all he has handles ,rebounds, assists and is great scorer and look how far the Macks have come in last 2 years he is a true point guard he should have made the first team . He doesnt have to score to dominate he can hurt u with assists and rebounds and leadership.
Posted by: matt allen | Saturday, March 09, 2013 at 12:56 PM
I don't know of him only because I missed both games they played and just wasn't following that bracket that close and I wish I would have. I didn't see SC either but my boy did and been kind of watching them here and on prep, but I would agree in most cases that you don't have to drop 25 ppg or more to be a top player. And as a good example is Darnell Carson who BTW I watched play last night in the Senior All-Star N-O vs GR game. He was on the 5 with my son and some others and he was leaving decent defenders with their shorts down with some crazy dribbling and no look passes with his speed and I call bunny hopping lane penetration!! Their were Dunks galore and the Genesee Region team had a 6ft kid from Kendall (I think) throw down 2 ally-oops and took a miss off the rim and bury it home!! But the N-O team coached by Wilson coach Sippel won it going away but was one of the best serious/fun games I've watched in awhile. Warm ups were nothing but a show of slams with another not so tall kid toss one of the glass for a nice 360 dunk. Now I think everyone knows of an awesome player from Kendall years ago who was Coach Boeheims first recruit at Syracuse...and that player today is still very active in the game helping players find places to play overseas and lots of others great things he does for the kids and you can go to his Facebook page and check him out. As I said I was very surprised at what a good game it turned out to be.
Posted by: GAME | Saturday, March 09, 2013 at 01:43 PM
Johnathon Lewis for the east high panthers is going too run threw wny next year boys basketball .. Even more than he did this year I think you guys should start paying more attention too east ...all 5 starters were underclass men and johnathon carried that young team too the Class B crossover game
Posted by: Jim233 | Saturday, March 09, 2013 at 02:09 PM
1st Team - Weir, Williams , Taplin , Bathurst , Crumpton
2nd Team- Eckstrom , Campion , white , Anderson , Wilkins
3rd Team - Belton , Lewis , Carson , Morris , Mitchell
4th Team - Mccdonald , Rath , Smith , oliveri , schmidtt
Posted by: Jason west | Saturday, March 09, 2013 at 02:23 PM
Wilkinson is a kid who averaged 24 a game
And led his team to the A2 final for the first
Time in 10 years he has to find his way onto
One of these teams!
Posted by: Joe716 | Saturday, March 09, 2013 at 02:42 PM
Weir, Crumpton, Bathurst, Taplin, Morris.
Book it now, those are your 1st team allwny for the buffalo news!!
Posted by: wny hooper | Saturday, March 09, 2013 at 03:36 PM
1st team Weir Taplin Crumpton Williams Bathurst
2nd team Eckstrum Campion Morris White Anderson
3rd team Wilkinson Carson Belton Mitchell Lewis
Posted by: Ryan J | Saturday, March 09, 2013 at 07:18 PM
There is a kid with better stats then at least one of the kids I keep seeing get mentioned for first team. Haight from Barker. He is second in scoring and rebounding according to section 6 and there new web site. Since he doesn't get the press coverage you won't see him even on the list. So please don't call it All WNY Center court call it buffalo's center court team please!
Posted by: Darrin Haight | Sunday, March 10, 2013 at 09:48 AM
Darrin -
I don't believe I've ever called it anything but All-Centercourt.
Posted by: centercourt | Sunday, March 10, 2013 at 11:27 AM
Tommy Campion should be first team!! how can you not have him on there??!! He carried jtown to the regoinals.
Posted by: sauce | Sunday, March 10, 2013 at 11:56 AM
TML1000 and Tarheel23: for the record my comments about Crumpton are based on comparing what I saw in high school from him and going to college games and seeing the level of play. Having said that, I hope Crumpton proves me wrong and has a great college career at Canisius. You gotta love it when a local guy makes it at a local college. Best of luck to him. As to the all centercourt teams, I hope when choosing you don't lose sight of the leagues certain players play in. A player may be dominant and puts up points in a league that is not really strong, but wouldn't do nearly the same with better competition. As an example, the NFL was terrible this year and when you look at some of the leagues with smaller size schools, guys who dominate there, couldn't do it with better competition. Just my thoughts.
Posted by: Shadowtoad | Sunday, March 10, 2013 at 12:16 PM
When Barker lost 56-16 to Akron, was the player who you claim is 2nd leading scorer and rebounder in the section playing that night?
Posted by: Just Wondering | Sunday, March 10, 2013 at 02:05 PM
Wilkinson and Mitchell are the leading scorers in the section!
Posted by: Ryan J | Sunday, March 10, 2013 at 02:41 PM
In my opinion, to be considered a top player, you have to do more than score points. Ie: play defense, rebounds, assists, steals, etc. Some of the players mentioned don't play any D!
Posted by: section 6 | Sunday, March 10, 2013 at 03:47 PM
I stated he is 2nd in scoring and rebounding and yes the stats don't lie those are section stats. Yes he played againt Akron and the team lost and Jake had a bad night both times they played akron. I thought you are tring to pick an all wny team which should be based on player stats not on what there teams did. Lebron James is proff of that you can be the best player and the team isn't. What I should of done was put Jake in a Private school like some of the kids on your list did because they realized what Lebron Did. You need players around you. They can't defend 5 like they can one...
Posted by: Darrin Haight | Sunday, March 10, 2013 at 08:04 PM
One of the things I enjoyed most as my kids were coming up through the ranks was the opportunity to meet and become friendly with kids from other schools, their parents, and offer encouragement while having the chance to see them work hard to achieve their goals. It's also what I miss most today.
One of the nicest people I met was Davon Marshall from Niagara Falls and his dad Cornell. Just great people.
I would like everyone to know that Davon played a huge part in bringing his underdog squad Liberty University to prime time, the NCAA biggest event of the year, The Big Dance!! He drained 6 3 pointers while scoring 20 in a big upset earlier today.
Congratulations to Davon, his family and the entire Niagara Falls community!! Well done! Bravo!
Posted by: hoopster | Sunday, March 10, 2013 at 08:34 PM
If your a scorer your a player
Posted by: Ryan J | Sunday, March 10, 2013 at 08:34 PM
I watched that Liberty game earlier today hoopster. Davon's a great kid, and I was happy to see him play so well on a team that's going to the tourney. I'll be in philly 2 weeks from now and would love it if Liberty gets sent there. Now on to the all wny talk. Don't be too shocked if Keith puts Zeddie Williams on first team. His team is still playing by the way, and they are undefeated. And for all those out there who say he cant be first team cause hes from a small school, I seem to recall Chris secky SHARING player of the year with wil regan when he was a senior. And Maple Grove was a D. Am I saying Zeddie is as good as Secky? Yeah, I guess I am. Or hes at least pretty close.
Posted by: Tarheel23 | Sunday, March 10, 2013 at 09:04 PM
Maple Grove is a d but they also get the press coverage. That's my point how many of you can say you seen an NO game let alone a school like Barker Play?
Posted by: Darrin Haight | Sunday, March 10, 2013 at 09:46 PM
I have seen plenty of NOL games...only a few this year but the league was not strong at all this year. Possibly weakest league not comprised of mostly D teams.
Posted by: TML1000 | Sunday, March 10, 2013 at 10:35 PM
Well Darrin,of course I see your point and I think you got to know that a lot of these Large School players have been involve in almost year round basketball where as we are trying to play football and basketball and I think the N-O League was full of great basketball games to watch. And with us you get the players we have in our communities. I played for the same team as my sons played on and not many moved here to be on our teams. But there is not a doubt if your boy was on one of these big time teams I believe he would play and play well. I love to watch him and he's a great kid and you can be very proud as I am at the way our kids played and Jake still has another year, all I can say is for people to watch him and many have in AAU or games.But we are way up north and some schools just don't get the coverage when you got so many kids to cover in the bigger leagues. We can always be proud of the teams and our league and it may not be a league full of outsiders playing at the school that will get them noticed more but it just makes better sense for some I guess,and I understand that.Like I said before~~we are a few of the only schools that you can come do and not have to lock your car in the parking lot when you come to watch or play a game here.And in case you don't know because I am known now as simply "GAME"!! I live a few miles west of you and my name is Ken Sears...all the best to Jake next year and maybe he will draw some much needed attention to us out here in corn country!!And I have seen some of these guys they talk about and they are as advertised, very good and the people here are also very good at looking at the talent pool.
Posted by: GAME | Monday, March 11, 2013 at 09:45 AM
I think Johnathon Lewis is the most underrated player in western ny ... The kid is amazing and does everything for a guard.. He also will defend your best player he attacks the basket at will ... With playing aau this summer and working out I'm afraid too see what he does next year .. When he and his whole team that lost in the class b championship to olean comes back next year .
Posted by: Tim Thomas | Monday, March 11, 2013 at 10:55 AM
Darrin -
Your initial comment seemed to be in response to others listing their picks, considering I haven't published my teams yet. But you ended with you saying I should just call it the All-Buffalo CC Team, I guess assuming I'm either not qualified to speak on all of WNY's players, or just biased towards the city.
Then you reference Maple Grove as a team getting coverage and asking how many have seen an N-O game this year, let alone Barker.
For starters, it's kind of bad form to cry bias before I've even released the teams. Secondly, the vast majority of HS hoops teams in WNY are from Erie County. With that said, I think teams like Jamestown, Olean, Portville, Randolph, & Silver Creek would be pleased with the coverage they got from this site during the season, especially considering I depart from northern Niagara County every night.
You said that stats don't lie. Maybe, but sure can mislead. The problem I have with looking at the section's site for stats is there are so many teams that haven't reported their numbers. At a quick glance, I noticed there were no stats reported from Jamestown, McKinley, Silver Creek, Middle College, and obviously no MMA teams since it's a Section VI site. Also, it would be a colossal disservice to all the players to simply use statistics to select postseason honors.
As far as Maple Grove getting press, I attended and wrote up one Maple Grove game this season:
http://centercourt.typepad.com/high-school-hoops-talk/2013/02/maple-grove-looks-primed-for-sectionals.html
If it's some other news outlet you're referring to, please say that. If it's previous seasons you're referring to, they did have a run of three straight years at Glens Falls with two state championships, a rather press worthy accomplishment.
I have attended N-O games, plenty of them. The only N-O teams I did not see this season were Albion and Wilson, the two last place teams with one league win apiece. And I graduated from Wilson, so there's that bias working again.
Here are the last two All-Centercourt teams from 2011 & 2012:
http://centercourt.typepad.com/high-school-hoops-talk/2011/04/the-2011-all-centercourt-team-the-best-in-wny.html
http://centercourt.typepad.com/high-school-hoops-talk/2012/04/the-2012-all-centercourt-team-the-best-in-wny.html
Josh Haight of Barker is an honorable mention selection on both teams.
Below is a link from a Barker game I covered in 2011, I think you'll notice both of the Haight brothers drawing high praise from the author:
http://centercourt.typepad.com/high-school-hoops-talk/2011/02/late-surge-lifts-newfane-past-barker.html
I typed Jake Haight into the search bar you'll find on the right hand column of this site if you scroll down. It yielded multiple results, so I copied & pasted three snipets from three separate Random Smatterings posts below:
1. "The Barker Raiders got a pair of double-doubles from a pair of underclassmen in their 67-44 victory over Section V's Byron Bergen. What makes it more interesting is that the pair are brothers. Junior Josh Haight scored 28 points and grabbed 10 boards, while freshman Jake Haight netted 18 points and 13 rebounds."
2. "Joe Lowery finished with 37 points in Niagara Catholic's loss to Walsh, Connor Keenan scored 37 points in a 76-72 loss to Iroquois, Barker sophomore Jake Haight put up 35 points & 21 rebounds on Newfane in a 74-64 loss, Sean Weisensal had 34 points for Maryvale in a loss to Depew, and Stan Wier of East Aurora scored 32 points in a losing effort at Amherst."
3. "Barker junior Jake Haight set the new individual game season-high scoring mark for this season in WNY with 40 points in a win over Elba."
There are several more posts that include Jake and I'd encourage you to check them out.
I guess your comments struck a nerve the more I digested them, because not only do I make the conscious effort to see as many different teams as I can, but my guess is you saw few, if any, games that Barker did not play in, making it difficult to really have a handle on what's out there on the over 100 teams playing in WNY. Throw in the fact that I'm well aware of Jake Haight and have both watched and written about him this year, and I'm scratching my head. I implore you to find any other site that has given more coverage to Barker's Jake Haight.
Posted by: centercourt | Monday, March 11, 2013 at 11:06 AM
Wilkinson and Lewis are both very underrated talents!
Posted by: Ryan J | Monday, March 11, 2013 at 12:16 PM
1st team Weir Taplin Crumpton Bathurst Williams
2nd team Campion Eckstrum Anderson White Morris
3rd team Wilkinson Belton Lewis Mitchell Carson
4th team Rath Macdonald Smith Wilkins Lewis
Posted by: Baller71 | Monday, March 11, 2013 at 01:25 PM
Campion is definitely first team. I witnessed at least 100 games
this season to my credit and he is the real deal As far as him not going Dn1;How many 5'9" high school seniors get the chance Jamtown won AA and he was definitely their leader against the Falls. Classy,
smart and top notch athlete,great leader and teammate
Posted by: Rockhollywoodbob | Monday, March 11, 2013 at 01:35 PM
1st: Weir, Crumpton, Taplin, Campion, Eckstrom
2nd: Williams, Bathurst, White, Carson, Anderson
3rd: Rath, Wilkins, Belton, Mitchell, McDonald
4th: Tyson, Mitchell, Morris, Smith, Jordan
5th: Wilkinson, Campbell, Funk, Brooks, Kellam
Posted by: sec6 | Monday, March 11, 2013 at 01:42 PM
Wow CC!!LOL....I didn't see any other stuff but great info and I will surely vouch that you attend many games in N-O...and I have to say biased and your name should never be used in same sentence.you tell it like it is without any regaurd for anything but the way it is and is why I like it here.No one could say anything about my sons on the court because I know it...I watch them.and because their my boys ....I think they are best in the world!! but your very correct on the Erie county amount of players and action as I alluded to earlier. they just have more players,venues and programs reasonably close to them to take advantage of.we live way of the beaten path and and the kids get most of their talent from playing in one anothers driveways as I actually had a gorilla glass backboard beast put in at their Moms house a few blocks down from me,and they actually did all the tough stuff and helped "Little Games" uncle do the concrete!!so given the things at hand and how they grow up playing....I would say the kids down here do pretty good for themselves being so far removed from the abundance of things offered and catered to in the areas where there so very many kids,and I think its a good thing.so I thank you for the coverage given to us and to all those who are the big headliners.You get an A+ from me for having this blog,watching more games in person than I could imagine and dedication to promoting as many people and places as you can to keep the masses happy...thank you.
Posted by: GAME | Monday, March 11, 2013 at 03:11 PM
I am not ready 2 post my final 1st team yet.
Weir, Crumpton, Taplin, and now Z Williams will b on their 4 sure. I still say A White will b 2nd team and 4 of these 5 will join him:
Will B
Sam E
M Morris
K Anderson
Tommy Campion
1 of them will make 1st team. I'd LEAN toward Bathurst at this point, but if Morris leads the Macks 2 a State title and has huge games, he could play himself on 1st team still I firmly believe.
Posted by: McShea is God | Monday, March 11, 2013 at 03:17 PM
I would hope too see one of the buffalo east guards on the all wny ... They were under sized most of the time it didn't matter .. They had a great season can't wait too see what happens next season !
Posted by: Kurtis Herb | Monday, March 11, 2013 at 03:34 PM
Agree with Keith on 1st team
Posted by: Kurtis Herb | Monday, March 11, 2013 at 03:35 PM
That's funny! To be clear, Keith never comments on this site. "McShea is God" is not Keith McShea. But thank you for the laugh.
Now if we could only get someone on here to promote Johnathan Lewis or Nate Wilkinson...
Posted by: centercourt | Monday, March 11, 2013 at 03:47 PM
I would like to take credit for ilovethisgame shortening his name to Game. Actually, i think he should turn himself into a symbol like Prince.
Posted by: Alice Sweet | Monday, March 11, 2013 at 04:36 PM
What does that mean ?
Posted by: Kurtis Herb | Monday, March 11, 2013 at 05:57 PM
That means "McShea is God" is not Keith McShea.
Posted by: WT716 | Monday, March 11, 2013 at 06:21 PM
Alice just for you and only because of the gentle fashion in which you shake my hand. Your a fine individual and am glad for the good times here
and i'm going with a heart shaped basketball but my new one is best I can do! But I don't think one of the East G will be on 1st team. they had a luxury and weapon most teams don't and it required a double team to a kid that throws down 2 handed dunks when he gets the ball under the hoop. those Tall kids take a lot of preasure off those gaurds so with that kind of freetime they should be top scorers.carson played in our league and he is a nifty ball handler(needs some work) then he will be super and his ability to penetrate is not often seen.if you have him as the guard at East...he has a chance to be looked at on 1st team but he didn't and hes not but I would take him any day on my team.
just for you A.S.~~~~"<3G"
Posted by: <3G | Monday, March 11, 2013 at 06:28 PM
Williams at Will East averaged over 16 a game and 9 rebounds, 2 blocks as a sophomore
Posted by: baller | Monday, March 11, 2013 at 10:39 PM
Portville's Zach Blask should be in the conversation for a spot on one of the teams. He was the MVP of CCAA Division II -- the league Silver Creek and Zeddie Williams play in.
Posted by: Oleander | Tuesday, March 12, 2013 at 12:14 AM
Keith did comment on this site. He said to MIG something like "I like your name, but not your game, at least not this week". Pull the post, you love to pull posts. Plus, I think Keith is "somethingto consider", and Roger is "baller"
Posted by: Alice Sweet | Tuesday, March 12, 2013 at 09:55 AM
I Apologize for my comments I made to centercourt and believe me you a Keith have done wonders for WNY High schools sports. I just don't believe there is a level playing field when these kids are judged. I would love to talk to you about it someday.I was upset at the way Barker was treated in Jamestown by section 6. That is a hole another story. I'm one of your biggest fans keep up the great work.
Posted by: Darrin | Tuesday, March 12, 2013 at 12:30 PM
Why there should be a shot clock at every HS in the US
http://deadspin.com/michigan-high-school-wins-playoff-game-after-holding-th-453355396
Posted by: WT716 | Tuesday, March 12, 2013 at 01:16 PM
I agree there should be a shot clock in every hs game. However, I was at the 1991 Regional Final between LaSalle hs and East HS of Rochester. No shot clock, triple ot, and to this day is in my top 5 hs games ever watched. Also on that list is Abraham Lincoln vs. Christ the king hs in 1995 which featured Lincoln Senior Stephon Marbury, and CTK sophomore Lamar Odom, along with a few other NBA players. And a great Federation Game between Mount Vernon and St. Raymonds hs, in 2002, or 2003. I still cant believe Mount Vernon not going to states this year. Hope New Rochelle is entertaining, and at least Ray Rice shows up
Posted by: Tarheel23 | Tuesday, March 12, 2013 at 01:58 PM
Just the thought of two iconic heavyweights in their own right, Abraham Lincoln squaring off against Christ the King, is daunting even if it wasn't a basketball game. Even though Lincoln was a great man, I give Christ the definite edge.
Posted by: Shadowtoad | Tuesday, March 12, 2013 at 02:44 PM
should a player who averaged 10ppg, 5.5apg,4rpg,and 4spg...and his team had a winning record by far be on this team........and also had 127 assist and only 38...90+ steals.....Just wondering??
Posted by: just wondering | Tuesday, March 12, 2013 at 02:58 PM
We r electing a new Pope 2 day and u guys r worried about who will make all WNY? C'mon man!
Christ the King would certainly beat up Abe Lincoln and he will get his chance in the Fed this year. Can u imagine a real life fight?
Christ the King vs Bishop Kearney - I would take Christ over any bishop.
Abe Lincoln over LI Lutheran - I'm not much 4 the Lutheran faith. Plus the dude was English.
I would say Christ would be favored in a game of 1 on 1 with Abe Lincoln -4.
1 hung on a cross 2 free us from sin, 1 was shot in the head 2 free the slaves.
Posted by: McShea is God | Tuesday, March 12, 2013 at 03:17 PM
I heard Jim Walker was in the running for pope not that he has time on his hands. He has my support.
Posted by: sec6 | Tuesday, March 12, 2013 at 03:34 PM
Gerald Bibbs from Oracle needs to be in the conversation. He was their best player, leading them to a 19-2 season and a huge win over McKinley.
Posted by: John Moore | Tuesday, March 12, 2013 at 04:18 PM
Christ rose from the dead!! last time I checked, Honest Abe hasn't done that yet. Plus Lincoln is more of a vampire hunter. So unless Judas "sweeps the leg" and "puts Christ in a body bag", I give the edge to God's only son. Now as far as Jim Walker is concerned, I don't see him as pope material, but maybe a bishop or cardinal. Speaking of Joe Cardinale, when is he coming back to kiss the emblem, at half court at buff state?
Posted by: Tarheel23 | Tuesday, March 12, 2013 at 06:04 PM
im sure you all know how the LUTHERen religion came to be right?.and MIG im with you i'll have to take Christ over anyone with the pope conclave and all>>>>>>for it is written~~~....................
Posted by: <3G | Tuesday, March 12, 2013 at 09:55 PM
1st-Weir, Taplin, Williams, Morris, Campion
2nd-Bathurst, Crumpton, Belton,Eckstrom, Anderson
3rd- Carson, White, Lewis, Mitchell, Smith
4th- McDonald, Rath, Bibbs, Campbell, Wilkinson
Posted by: ECIC Love | Tuesday, March 12, 2013 at 10:04 PM
Peace be with you all.
anyone goin to Glens Falls? @done4fun~thanks. I follow you TML if your going
And Alice, I know who somethingtoconsider is with 100% certainty!!he too is a double agent.
Goin to watch the live feed on the chimney smoke.
Posted by: <3G | Tuesday, March 12, 2013 at 10:08 PM
your a non stop load of fun!!!next time you come to lunch with us....and good find on that one! should have known better than to test the master~~well done!
hey did you check out my boys maxprep stats?not bad for a kid that I had to kind of made the coach understand how important it was for my boy not to get cut. and carries mid to upper90z 5 yr academics. I only say cause I looked today and not claiming a spot for him but came a long way from never played organized hoops till he tried out that's all.
Posted by: yougotme! | Wednesday, March 13, 2013 at 12:28 AM
my other boy at senior all-star game N-O League Stars VS Genesee Region Stars in warm ups he is 5'10" 3 years ago when Lackawanna beat them in B1 Final,,,would have been great for the school bring home another section 6 title since 20 years previous when I won...would have been a great story!! don't mind my voice I was surprised as they never tell me anything! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=67t9uEB81RI
Posted by: ilove2consider | Wednesday, March 13, 2013 at 01:05 AM
30 years not 20~like anyone GAF!
Posted by: ilove2consider | Wednesday, March 13, 2013 at 01:06 AM
Yes...I'll be there for all 15 games.
Posted by: TML1000 | Wednesday, March 13, 2013 at 09:14 AM
TML you can go to glenns falls. But if you want to sit at press row, you better make sure you have proper credentials. And stay out of my daughters candy dish
Posted by: Frank Clemente | Wednesday, March 13, 2013 at 01:25 PM
TML is a walking credential!!!I be looking for tweet from you all...thanks
Posted by: Game | Wednesday, March 13, 2013 at 04:36 PM
What does your top 10 large and small schools look like as of now?
Posted by: section 6 | Wednesday, March 13, 2013 at 08:58 PM
I'll let you know after this weekend.
Posted by: centercourt | Wednesday, March 13, 2013 at 09:53 PM
You'll be dead!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: Boba Fett | Wednesday, March 13, 2013 at 11:19 PM
tweet~tweet,basketball birdies!!Will Reegan 36 points tonight for UB, not a bad clutch performance.Everyone drive safe if your heading to Glens Falls~Remember its the other guys you got to watch out foe and enjoy the H.S Basketball talent show, you should see some great things and all the best to McKinley and CCz Silver Creek..you said it all year You may be on the verge of a make up save for the Oleander fall from grace.
Posted by: Game | Wednesday, March 13, 2013 at 11:37 PM
Wil great game tonight. Ub has Kent St tomorrow, maybe they can put together a little run and get to the championship game. Can't wait for the selection show. Talking about the NIT selection show, and looking forward to Niagara University's next opponent. Hoping they can make a nice run, and get to MSG and the final four of the NIT. Good luck Mckinley and Silver Creek. Silver creek plays a team called Pine Plains. If they're anything like the Pine Barrons in the Sopranos could be a tough afternoon
Posted by: Tarheel23 | Thursday, March 14, 2013 at 01:45 AM
I don't want to sit at press row...it sucks the life out of the game.
Posted by: TML1000 | Thursday, March 14, 2013 at 11:59 AM
I will also eat out of any candy dish I like.
Posted by: TML1000 | Thursday, March 14, 2013 at 12:00 PM
1st team Weir Taplin Crumpton Bathurst Williams
2nd team Campion Eckstrum Anderson White Morris
3rd team Wilkinson Smith Lewis Mitchell Carson
4th team Rath Macdonald Belton Wilkins Lewis
Posted by: beast | Thursday, March 14, 2013 at 12:13 PM
being that i played with these boys i would vote
1st team Weir Taplin Crumpton Bathurst Campion
2nd team Williams Eckstrum Anderson White Morris
3rd team Wilkinson Smith Macdonald Mitchell Carson
4th team Rath Lewis Belton Wilkins Lewis
Posted by: L. Smith | Thursday, March 14, 2013 at 12:17 PM
Looks like the lobbying for wilkinson and lewis is working.
Posted by: section 6 | Thursday, March 14, 2013 at 01:03 PM
Even though he was a great local player in HS, if anyone would have told me before this season that Will Regan would bring the type of game that he has to UB, I would have said no way! Regan has been steady all year and is a fantastic addition to the Bulls. 36 points!! He has had a great year and he compliments McCrea. If they had better guard play throughout the year, they would have been fighting for a championship. Hope they pull it off in the MAC tournament. GOOD LUCK BULLS!
Posted by: Shadowtoad | Thursday, March 14, 2013 at 02:05 PM
Their guard play has been fine...Skeete has performed more than admirably after being thrust into the starting PG role and Watson has arguably been their best player in many games down the stretch.
UB's main issue is their lack of creativity off the bounce and lack of a consistent scorer from the wing position or the bench. Nuriankh has been inconsistent at best and their bench production has been non-existant save for a few decent performances from Downing.
The good news is that everyone besides Watson returns, as well as getting Oldham back. Hopefully Wier will be healthy next year and be able to shoulder some of the outside shooting load. Players like Raley-Ross and Ford are multiple year scholarship players who have barely touched the floor this season and have not done anything when they have been out there...UB will need at least one of them to contribute next season if they will make a serious run.
Posted by: TML1000 | Thursday, March 14, 2013 at 03:08 PM
TML1000-it appears that you have followed the UB program and may know the answer to this question. Why hasn't Ford played more as he appeared to be a big time recruit and was a Parade All-American? Any insights? Just curious.
Posted by: Shadowtoad | Thursday, March 14, 2013 at 03:56 PM
Wilkinson can score a little bit but Funk from Clarence outplayed him in ther game earlier in the year. Gotta go with Funk on third or fourth team at least. Look at strength of schedule and who they each play against. Better defenders in ECIC 1.
Posted by: Hoopster | Thursday, March 14, 2013 at 04:33 PM
I think the same person keeps putting up a team under a different name cause people just dont think that much alike! And I agree about Funk
Posted by: sec6 | Thursday, March 14, 2013 at 04:58 PM
There may be more than one Gus Buster, Yale Cup, and guest, but there is only one hoopster, and he never uses a capital H.
Please stop borrowing hoopster's handle, even if you are capitalizing the first letter.
Posted by: centercourt | Thursday, March 14, 2013 at 05:36 PM
I must of watch Will Regan on a bad night because what I saw was not what I would exspect from an All WNY first teamer. He spent most of the night out side of the arch shooting Three's. I would think a guy his size should be living under the basket battling with there big guys. They Beat Central Mich in over time but it could of gone the other way at the Buzzer.
Posted by: From the North | Thursday, March 14, 2013 at 08:37 PM
what were Funk's season stats? Good shooter but what did he have for rebounds and blocks at 6"5"?
Posted by: BALLER | Thursday, March 14, 2013 at 08:39 PM
It's not about stats, it's about what team you play for and how that team did. That's been pointed out to me more then once and in more then one sport. Not every team reports stats either. Just read the Buffalo news they will tell you who is the Best! Stats don't tell the hole story.... I'll prove that point when the all WNY team get posted in the Buffalo News.
Posted by: From the North | Thursday, March 14, 2013 at 10:00 PM
I knew that was an imposter of hoopster. again the content of the post alone says it all. he was always very positive and never got caught up in these arguments over who is better, etc. and i doubt he is watching very many hs games let alone posting from the road.
Posted by: section 6 | Thursday, March 14, 2013 at 11:29 PM
In terms of Ford...it may have been a factor of not playing against great competition that likely inflated his stats in high school. He was extremely raw in the time he saw in 2011-12, which was no less than what he played this season.
To me, he certainly has some talent but just does not fit Reggie's system. Ford does not have the ball skills and shooting to play the wing but does not have the bulk or post ability to play in the paint. Hopefully he will improve one of those areas in the off season and get in the rotation because he is quite the athlete. Raley-Ross has a similar problem in that he is sort of stuck between the 2 and 3 positions in Reggie's offense, but is also a great athlete and rebounder.
That said, UB returns a lot of talent and it would be a huge disappointment if they do not make a very serious run at the MAC crown next season. I have to believe it would be the end of the road for Reggie if they do not make the tourney or at least come very close assuming the team remains major-injury free.
Posted by: TML1000 | Friday, March 15, 2013 at 04:32 AM
Stats and ppg don't tell the whole story... There is more to the game than just scoring 20ppg....Does a point guard lead and direct and control his team. Does the big man hold down and anchor the D, does he pass well out of a double team.......Do the "best players" play with the heart and intensity that they should in order to be considered on any of these teams.... Does the team win!!!!!!!!!All these things play a role.
In this city if a kid scores 20ppg everyone says he's a player. PPG can be extremely overrated. Averaging 20 is good but how many shots has the player taken to get his twenty. In high school there shouldn't be such a thing as a volume scorer. 20 points on 20 shots....Come on now!!! I'll take a kid who can do everything well....score, pass,defend,lead and win.... over a kid who scores 20,plays NO D,can't or doesn't pass, and is part of a winning program because he plays with guys who do all the other things, or his team doesn't win at all!!!!!!!!!
Just Saying!!!!!
Posted by: just wondering | Friday, March 15, 2013 at 08:59 AM
Some of you guys are nuts!!! Belton needs to go way up on your list!! Zeddie Williams better be up there in the top 10 in WNY. How do you put Wilkenson and Mitchell up there because they score some points. Look at the quality of their points. When teams needed to stop Wilkenson they did easily - example Hamburg and Amherst. As far as Mitchell - just because you put up some points it doesn't need you are a top player. Over rated!!! Against Lake Shore in the playoff game he had 20 something but they were not quality points. Missed some dunks - missed a bunch of 3's. Needs to stay at Delaware Park with that game! Think you need to look at all the Divisions and look it all the players in their divisions. D2 you are saying Wilkenson cause of points. In ECIC D3 you have Brueckl with I think almost 70 threes this year. He had a very good year and led that division in scoring. Not sure about having so many kids from Catholic schools up there.
Posted by: Chris Miller | Friday, March 15, 2013 at 09:06 AM
If your going to mention me at least spell my name right Wilkinson*
Posted by: N.wilkinson | Friday, March 15, 2013 at 11:52 AM